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发表于 2008-11-24 06:27:46 |显示全部楼层
John, Cozio is most knowledgeable person at this forum.  That's why we call him "CO master".  There are also a few distiguishable hosts at this forum for things like performance, instrument construction and sales.  For example, Mr. Cheng at the learning section was the concertmaster of the Royal Amsterdam Symphony Orchestra.  The owner of the New York based violin shop http://www.violin1782.com/ is also a very active host here.
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发表于 2008-11-24 08:10:00 |显示全部楼层
  傳給我看看你的弓的部分相片 (按以下的圖)
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发表于 2008-11-24 09:30:24 |显示全部楼层
Dear John:
<BR />Mr Cozio asked you to take photos of your bow in these points of view he showed.
<BR />Welcome to our forum!
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发表于 2008-11-24 12:16:44 |显示全部楼层
<P>Thank you, most honorable Cozio and other members for your warm welcome!&nbsp; </P>
<BR /><P>Here is one image&nbsp;which is somewhat similar to those&nbsp;requested by Maestro Cozio.</P>
<BR /><P>Will have to take end views of the nut as I do not have those at present.</P>
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<BR /><P>Again, thank you all very much!</P>
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<BR /><P>John</P>
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发表于 2008-11-25 02:39:06 |显示全部楼层

French cello bow, after 1819

<P>More&nbsp;images for CO Master. </P>
<BR /><P>If not sufficient please advise.</P>
<BR /><P>Thank you.</P>
<BR /><P>John</P>

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发表于 2008-11-25 22:22:45 |显示全部楼层
根據目前相片
<BR />螺絲 不是原來的, 旋鈕及金屬半圓環(目前不確認是不是原來的)
<BR />金屬半圓環及烏木的形狀, 開孔方式 弓的八角切面方式
<BR />這把可能是把1880以前的 英國弓  (有點 Dodd 風格)  
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发表于 2008-11-26 01:22:08 |显示全部楼层
According to the current photos, the screw is not original.  The screw head and the metal semicircle ring at the moment is determined as non-original.  Base on the metal semicircle ring, the wood shape, the way the hole was opened and the octagonal cut style, it is likely that the bow is English before 1880 (has Dodd style).

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发表于 2008-11-26 03:24:48 |显示全部楼层
Thank you very much Maestro Cozio and D-Dur!  One European dealer gave the following assessment"
<BR />"Definitely French, circa 1830, possibly someone around Gaulard , the button not original to the stick".
<BR />So we have variance in opinion of origin, with two parties in agreement on (non original) ebony button and/or screw. (I am not certain, but do think the ebony button is original, the screw may be later.)  According to my current understanding (through previous research) the ferrule is made of the alloy "Alpaca or Maillechort" which was not invented in France until 1819, thus my statement of approximate age.
<BR />It is a very nteresting piece (of some value?) with cheval restoration and shield replacement needed.
<BR />I would like to offer both cello bows to the market. in your area. Is there a  proper section in your website for a new member to offer quality items for sale? (I also have a small collecion of very nice violins and other bows I wish to place in the hands of highly talented young future soloists.)  
<BR />I humbly ask first -- because I do not wish to offend most honourable Mastro Cozio and other members.
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<BR />Thank you,
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<P>John, if you have just a few items for sale, you may want to open a new page in the section of "Mall for European Instruments"
<BR><A href="http://bbs.cnstrad.com/forum-119-1.html" target="_blank">http://bbs.cnstrad.com/forum-119-1.html</A>
<BR></P><P>Just click the button which has a "+" sign on the top right, you will create a new page.  You can choose the subject type in the pull-down menu,
<BR>type in your subject, and upload the photos.
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<BR>If you plan the sell more instruments in the long run, you may want to set up your own shop in the above section for a small fee, as your page may get "buried" by new pages in a few days.  For this you need to contact the host of this forum "rogerius"  <A href="http://bbs.cnstrad.com/pm.php?action=send" target="_blank">http://bbs.cnstrad.com/pm.php?action=send</A>  </P><P>He is currently studying in Germany and speaks English and German very well.</P><P></P><P>We can help you to translate the page once you set it up.</P>

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发表于 2008-11-26 05:40:33 |显示全部楼层
Thank you, D.Dur.
<BR />I have in my possession a violin which has recently been certified to be an authentic specimen by  a Cremonese Master.Liutaio of the Guarneri tribe. It is indeed a very nice violin and in excellent preservation excepting the normal wear to the varnish top coats since the year 1741, when it was made. It is my sincere wish to pass this magnificent instrument into the hands of a young and deserving artiste who will cherish it, care for it, and play upon it for the rest of their life. If I cannot pass it on, I will be very disappointed for this is the very reason I have invested untold thousands of hours time in research and follow through to have the instrument properly assessed by a competent, honest, expert consultant.  He  is a certain Mr. Gerard Murphy, President Atelier Violins, Bushey, UK  -  www.atelierviolins.com  -  I do not know exactly how to proceed in the Asian market place so I am actively seeking the guidance of those who will prove themselves to be honest persons with no pecuniary benefit expected or intended other than receiving normal fees, deserved by and due them,  for the rendering of their services.
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<BR />I will now research the information you have so generously provided, D-Dur.
<BR />Thank you.
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<BR />John
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